*News Update Feb 14th 2014*
I received a letter from the Council that once again new files have been added on February 12th to the application for comment.
So everyone who has already commented will have to comment all over again.
Which begs the question why new files are being allowed to be added to the current application after the receipt of extensive comments?
Is the developer simply countering the submitted comments with new files? Time for Thanet Council to require the developer submit a new application.
Check out the new files on www.ukplanning.com/thanet
The proposal to demolish the historic Thanet Press buildings in Union Crescent in central Margate has been revised.
Today is the deadline for comments. The proposal, by GTL Property Management Ltd, is for the erection of 2 x 4 storey buildings and 1 x 3 storey building to accommodate 70 one and two bedroom flats.
I've been rather snowed under, so apologies for the lateness of this post.
So, if you think there is a better future for this central light industrial site, nestled in the midst of Margate's Conservation Area and surrounded by Listed Buildings, please share this to your contacts.
Here are the grounds I think worth commenting on myself. To comment, go to www.ukplanning.com/thanet
Ref: F/TH/13/0538 and C/TH/13/0539
Make sure you comment on both applications.
- This is a key existing light industrial site, ideally placed in Central Margate to take full advantage of the available Regional Growth Fund loans in the East Kent Area. The loss of this site that could create and support employment and enterprise is unacceptable. The site is unsuitable for the creation of such a high number and high density of residential dwellings.
Ref: F/TH/13/0538 and C/TH/13/0539
Make sure you comment on both applications.
- This is a key existing light industrial site, ideally placed in Central Margate to take full advantage of the available Regional Growth Fund loans in the East Kent Area. The loss of this site that could create and support employment and enterprise is unacceptable. The site is unsuitable for the creation of such a high number and high density of residential dwellings.
- The structural engineer’s report confirms that the building is sound and could be reasonably reused and potentially extended, albeit with some minor remediation measures as recommended by the environmental report.
- The conclusions of the historic report are contrary to the good evidence the historic assessment (at the beginning of the report) presents of the importance of Union Crescent in Margate’s history and this appears to be biased in favour of those commissioning the report.
- I would strongly disagree with the report’s statement that, "The horizontal rhythm reflects the Georgian terrace opposite”. The inset vertical expression of the stairwells fronting the main Union Crescent facade is completely inconsistent with the Georgian character of the buildings opposite, and in general, and the overall proportion and hierarchy reads as a very poor pastiche. The proposed use of stucco rendered corbels and reconstituted stone demonstrates that the building would be of insufficient material quality.
- The proposed PPC aluminium sash windows are of very poor proportion and would not successfully emulate their Listed neighbours.
- The proposed design is of very poor quality, in a location where there is no precedent for housing of this scale, nor evidence of housing ever existing on the site, directly facing buildings of significant historic interest on all sides.
- The proposed scheme does not enhance the Conservation Area and would certainly be a detrimental contribution to the street and the town. For reasons of height, mass and bulk and potentially sunlight/ daylight impact to the neighbours the design remains inappropriate.
- The fact that the existing 19th Century buildings on the site were not Listed by English Heritage is insufficient justification alone for demolition within a conservation area.
- The loss of the site’s employment use in the town centre remains a concern. There has been interest in this building commercially that has been dismissed by the owner in favour of this proposed change of use. The proposed change of use is contrary to local planning policy.
- The overlooking of the properties to the north of Hawley Square, with the overbearing scale of the proposals that face onto a narrow back street, is wholly unacceptable, to what is such an important Georgian square in both national and local terms. The proposed building facing onto Prince’s Street is significantly taller than the existing massing and goes against the historic grain of the conservation area.
I hope that the council will see fit to refuse this application and encourage the applicant to more sustainably reuse the site and maintain a commercial use.
Further notes:
Historic Significance Appraisal Report
Since the last time the application was submitted a, Historic Significance Appraisal Report has been added to UK Planning. It was for this reason, that Councillor Iris Johnston sought for the application to be brought to Planning Committee rather than be decided under delegated powers. The Planning Department had it recommended for refusal.
The report gives an enlightening and useful description of the Georgian residential buildings to Union Crescent , including outlining their importance and significance and their Listing status. This adds further weight to the argument that the proposed buildings, with their poorly considered elevation treatment and massing, will serve to de-value the setting of Union Crescent and its contribution to the Conservation Area.
The report contends that the scheme will have a positive contribution to the setting, however it will not. It does not ‘complete the classical composition’ as the street was never conceived as such. As the report outlines, the Thanet Press site has never contained buildings of a massing as proposed, and the street frontage has never been built up to such an extent. The design, particularly the proposed materials and detailing is poor and does not reflect that found on the adjacent buildings.
The loss of versatile commercial space will be hugely detrimental to the local area and the long term future of the town. A truly vibrant streetscape is created by a mix of uses and occupants, and refurbishment of the existing buildings for commercial use is the best way to achieve this.
Structural Report
The structural appraisal clearly states that the existing buildings are in a sound condition and re-use, even extension would be possible. From a sustainability point of view, such re-use is the most effective way forward and will use far less embodied energy than demolition and new build. The council should be taking a forward thinking approach and encouraging the re-use of existing structures.
Hazardous Substance Survey
The existing buildings were found to contain asbestos in parts, however the report states that ‘contamination in general is minimal and localised’. Any future development of the site, be it refurbishment of existing buildings or demolition with new build will have to deal with this so it neither supports nor opposes this application. What is clear is that it is possible to safely clear the existing buildings of hazardous materials and refurbish the existing buildings. There is no case for demolition on contamination grounds.
The Thanet Press site represents an important opportunity for sensitive regeneration of the existing buildings to create a new vibrant commercial space in the heart of the town. The existing buildings have a versatility of use and interest of form that the proposed scheme fails to deliver and I urge the council to refuse this scheme.
Further notes:
Historic Significance Appraisal Report
Since the last time the application was submitted a, Historic Significance Appraisal Report has been added to UK Planning. It was for this reason, that Councillor Iris Johnston sought for the application to be brought to Planning Committee rather than be decided under delegated powers. The Planning Department had it recommended for refusal.
The report gives an enlightening and useful description of the Georgian residential buildings to Union Crescent , including outlining their importance and significance and their Listing status. This adds further weight to the argument that the proposed buildings, with their poorly considered elevation treatment and massing, will serve to de-value the setting of Union Crescent and its contribution to the Conservation Area.
The report contends that the scheme will have a positive contribution to the setting, however it will not. It does not ‘complete the classical composition’ as the street was never conceived as such. As the report outlines, the Thanet Press site has never contained buildings of a massing as proposed, and the street frontage has never been built up to such an extent. The design, particularly the proposed materials and detailing is poor and does not reflect that found on the adjacent buildings.
The loss of versatile commercial space will be hugely detrimental to the local area and the long term future of the town. A truly vibrant streetscape is created by a mix of uses and occupants, and refurbishment of the existing buildings for commercial use is the best way to achieve this.
Structural Report
The structural appraisal clearly states that the existing buildings are in a sound condition and re-use, even extension would be possible. From a sustainability point of view, such re-use is the most effective way forward and will use far less embodied energy than demolition and new build. The council should be taking a forward thinking approach and encouraging the re-use of existing structures.
Hazardous Substance Survey
The existing buildings were found to contain asbestos in parts, however the report states that ‘contamination in general is minimal and localised’. Any future development of the site, be it refurbishment of existing buildings or demolition with new build will have to deal with this so it neither supports nor opposes this application. What is clear is that it is possible to safely clear the existing buildings of hazardous materials and refurbish the existing buildings. There is no case for demolition on contamination grounds.
The Thanet Press site represents an important opportunity for sensitive regeneration of the existing buildings to create a new vibrant commercial space in the heart of the town. The existing buildings have a versatility of use and interest of form that the proposed scheme fails to deliver and I urge the council to refuse this scheme.
As a resident of Thanet for most of my 71 years I have always thought of the Thanet Press building as extremely ugly. Why anyone should wish to preserve it is beyond me.
ReplyDeleteYou say, ".......sensitive regeneration of the existing buildings to create a new vibrant commercial space in the heart of the town."
ReplyDeleteYour phrase is nebulous. In the words of George Orwell it is Duck Speak.
Are you able to clarify your statement; give an example of the type of building you wish to see there; and who would pay for it?.
Maybe you would press for cultural centre funded by the taxpayer?
Why not renovate the existing building?
ReplyDeleteLouise,
DeleteAt the risk of being frank you do not appear to think things through; you tend to talk in slogans.
In my experience renovation of Victorian buidings is far more expensive than demolition and a new build.
What would you like to see built there and who should pay for it?
It's not a good thing to get rid of an industrial area that can provide jobs because a developer wants to make money. Not all stes and locations are suitable for high density residential. It also has a historic value. Is it always about doing the thing that's cheaper?
ReplyDeleteLouise,
ReplyDeleteI take your point.
I would welcome your views on the following:
why do you object to a private developer making a profit;
do you believe that renovation and regeneration should be a charge upon the taxpayer;
do you know of anyone who wishes to use the building for industrial purposes;
English Heritage does not consider the building suitable for listing, you challenge their expertise, can you explain why?
Again at the risk of being frank, when it comes down to actually doing something nebulous phrases and slogans are worthless.
Can you give chapter and verse on how you wish to see the site developed?
The current building is an ugly eyesore, although the properties in Union Crescent are not that much better and the stench of cannabis from some of the buildings does not make it a desirable area. Any new build on the Thanet Press site would be an improvement to the area.
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